I am the creator of 2 unique philosophies, namely existential antinatalism (the idea that procreation is illogical) & existential promortalism (the idea that it is logical for any mortal living being to die as soon as possible).
I should start by differentiating existential antinatalism/promortalism from contemporary antinatalism/promortalism. The latter 2 are against procreation & continued living respectively, but on the basis of ethics/morality. Ethics/morality is a completely fictitious concept & this can be easily proven.
Firstly, David Hume’s “is-ought” gap can be solved, but the solution has nothing to do with morality. It can only be solved by determinism/causation e.g a ball that is held up in the air is let go. What ought to happen? It ought to fall down. The, “is” statement is the fact that the ball has been let go and the, “ought” statement is the fact that it must fall down. I state that morality is fictitious because it fails to solve what I call the, “ought-ought” gap. Since deriving an, “ought” from an, “is” has nothing to do with morality, the only other option to try & prove moral realism is to try to derive an, “ought” from another, “ought”. Unfortunately, this is impossible, because it results in an infinite regress of, “ought” statements. E.g If you try to justify, “ought” claim-1 with, “ought” claim-2, you are implying that, “ought” claim-1 requires justification, because it is an, “ought” claim. This further implies that, “ought” claim-2 requires justification as well. Attempting to do so with an, “ought” claim-3 results in the same problem, leading to an infinite regress of, unjustifiable, “ought” claims.
It argues in favor of both, with 3 arguments.
The first is called the argument from unnecessary complexity. It states that in the world there exist living things and non living things & both serve the same purpose, which is obedience of the laws of physics. However, the non living things can do this job by themselves, meaning that the existence of living things adds unnecessary complexity to the world. Thus, it is more logical to make the world simpler by removing the already existing living things & not bringing more new ones.
The second is called the argument from a lack of purpose. It states that it is impossible to prove that a living organism must continue living or that it must create new life, since this would amount to a moral claim & morality is a fictitious concept. As such, it is illogical to do something that you have no obligation to do. One could argue that there is no moral obligation to be dead either so being dead is illogical. This is false, because dead things do not exist any more & the characteristic of being logical or illogical cannot apply to the them.
The third is called the argument from a universal solution. It states that every living thing has to solve problems. The word, “problems” here, is used in a general sense, to refer to having desires. To have a desire simply means to want something. The nature of the desire, doesn’t matter. It could be anything, no matter how big (wanting to run for president) or small (wanting to go to the toilet). This argument states that it is illogical to create offspring who will have desires, since they did not need or want anything before they were born. It goes on to state that death is the most logical reaction to having any desires, because death gets rid of desires themselves. Consider for example, the fact that humans need to eat food to stay alive. Instead of dealing with your hunger by eating food, if you instead die, you would permanently, no longer even need to eat. On a larger scale, rather than governments spending huge amounts of money & effort on agriculture, it would instead be a more sensible action to organize a total genocide, to avoid the need for food production.
For more information, check out my Amazon published book "Promortalism" that explores the topic in greater detail.
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And for more information on what mortality is how about you go jump off a roof?
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2) If morality is a fictitious concept, then there seems to be no moral obligation to both continuing to live / creating new life, and not continuing to live / not creating new life. If anything, it suggests that everything is permissible, does it not?
3) But desires have two sides to them: when they are not satisfied, the conscious being experiences pain - but when they are satisfied, he experiences pleasure. Desires add both highs and lows to otherwise neutral existence. By taking the desires away, you take both the highs and the lows away.
In my case, for instance, I believe that the badness of the lows is far offset by the goodness of the highs: I am okay with working hard towards something and making serious sacrifices in the process, given how sweet achieving that something is. Why would you take that away from someone by taking all desires away from them?
I think that you have spent a lot of time pondering these issues and your position is very deep and nuanced (more nuanced than you could demonstrate in a small post on an online board), but it seems that you ran into one of the "philosophical traps" that take one's thinking away from constructive directions. It just does not seem to me that the search in the direction in which you are making it right now will lead to betterment of your life, and if so, is it not logical to change it?
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Ive just got to say that this guy is a total screw head and that was a spam topic any way. He will never reply because all he did was bot the same crap to all the debate sites.
Just saying.
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